Veronica Monet, ACS Certified Sexologist and Sex Educator, interviews sensual researchers Sheri and Rebecca from Welcomed.com on her Live Talk Radio Show The Shame Free Zone discovering what went on in the making of the explicit DVD A Guide to Your Orgasm.
VERONICA MONET: Hey Welcome to the Shame Free Zone. This is your host, Veronica Monet. Joining me this evening is Sheri Testerman and Rebecca. They are both from the Welcomed Consensus. Now I only recently heard about the Welcomed Consensus but I am finding it quite intriguing. They’ve actually been demonstrating, doing public demonstrations of women experiencing one hour orgasm since 1992. They have been around for quite some time. You can visit their website at www.welcomed.com We’ve got a special event going on this evening…they’re actually going to giving away 10 free copies of their brand new DVD which is entitled, A Guide to your Orgasm to the first ten people who go to the welcomed.com website and fill out a contact form with your request for a free video. So that’s pretty cool.
Let me tell you just a little about Sheri Testerman, she’s a sensual researcher and a sex educator. She’s one of the founding members of The Welcomed Consensus. She’s spent the last 21 years teaching men and women about orgasm, friendship and how live a rich and gratifying life. And Rebecca, is a graduate of SF State University, has been a student and a researcher of sensuality with the Welcomed Consensus since 1999. She’s passionate and dedicated to spreading this information to others who want to have more pleasurable and gratifying lives. These are two very intelligent and uplifting women and I’m really proud to bring them into the Shame Free Zone. Rebecca and Sheri, welcome.
SHERI & REBECCA: Thank you.
VERONICA MONET: It’s good to have you guys. Where’s Welcomed Consensus located?
SHERI: Actually, in both locations. We teach in San Francisco and we also teach in Northern California. We do our retreats and the upper level courses in the Northern California area pretty close to the Oregon border. It’s gorgeous up there.
VERONICA MONET: It is beautiful up there. Do you go up into Ashland at all?
SHERI: Actually we do.
VERONICA MONET: I’m looking at the home page on your website which again is welcomed.com It’s a beautiful page you have got quite a few of your videos on here. Lots of healthy, smiling faces. And I think that it really speaks to what the whole idea about leading a pleasure-based, orgasmic life is about. Sheri, I was wondering, can you speak to that a little bit? Why is it even important? For some people it is fodder for jokes. I don’t think they would think it would be something you would want to study or make a daily practice. Can you tell us a little bit of your perspective on that?
SHERI: Are you speaking of sexuality, sex?
VERONICA MONET: Orgasm. Specifically about orgasm.
SHERI: Well, people don’t tell the truth about how much they are interested in orgasm. And, you know, people do make jokes about it but they are still thinking about it. We’re all sensual, sexual beings and orgasm is part of our nature. And if asked, if you ask anyone, if you could have a better orgasm or you could have a gratifying orgasm and that was available to you, would you like that? I think everybody would say, yes, they would. And it is available for anyone and everyone. It’s really just about having training, having information, being educated. Because as you well know we are lacking in sexual education in this country and many other countries, too, just world-wide. So, educating people on just some of the basics of sex and orgasm it is really quite expanding. Everyone can be orgasmic, have a sex life and a relationship with their partner that continually gets better and better and is more and more fun.
VERONICA MONET: I think that is really a misunderstood fact and as a sexologist, my clients I am often struck with by how many people think “well, it’s downhill from here because I’m getting older”. Or, “we’ve known each other for 20 years so what do you expect, of course it’s going to be boring”. It’s really sad to me because I do believe that sex is meant to be a journey. It’s just like anything else in life if you are reaching a point where you are feeling bored or things are not working as well as they used to it’s usually an invitation from the universe to grow, change and move into something new even if that’s just a state of mind, or level of intimacy or something like that.
SHERI: Right, absolutely.
VERONICA MONET: Rebecca, what role do you think orgasm plays? Why is this something that you are wanting to study that you have devoted so much time to? You are a researcher of sensuality. What pertinence does that have to life in our modern age?
REBECCA: I thought both of you made really good points about it and in particular, people do think about it all the time. And it really is so entwined with human happiness… to have that connection with another human being in a pleasurable way. That’s really the most pleasurable way that you can experience your body is orgasm. You can feel that even when you’re not having sensual activity, you can feel that orgasm in your body. You can feel it in your relationships with other people. For me as I have expanded my orgasm in studying this, it’s been a path for me for having everything in my life get better, my relationships get better and being more happy person. And when I’m a happier person everything goes better, I’m more productive, I do everything better, you know, I can think better.
VERONICA MONET: Absolutely. And it’s also a great adjunct to being healthy.
REBECCA: Oh yes, I agree. I totally agree with that. I mean one of the things that we experience is that hardly any of us get sick or you know, those kind of things break down. I think a lot of times I can feel at times when my body has that orgasm flowing through it. It’s just feels healthy, feels good. I just know it’s good for me. I can feel there have been times where say I’ve taken a trip and I just haven’t had my attention on having that orgasm. I can feel the difference in my body. I just really believe it does add to your health.
VERONICA MONET: Absolutely. You know one of the things when I go over to welcomed.com I notice all these bright, smiling faces. I think people who are having a vibrant sexual life have a twinkle in their eye. And they carry themselves different. More alert, more buoyant, you know there is life.
SHERI: Right, a vitality.
VERONICA MONET: Yes, vitality, verve, joy for life, an engagement and connection to everything that’s going on. And I think it has some profound effects on creativity, too. Now I’m wondering, Sheri, at Welcomed Consensus, the kind of research that one does when being a sensual researcher, can you explain that? What exactly are we talking about here?
SHERI: Well, that’s a very good question. When we started this over 20 years ago, a group of friends that had common goals we wanted to make the most out of our experience in life. We felt that life was to be celebrated and really to extract the most pleasure from every component of it. So we asked ourselves, what does that really mean? And how does one do that? And so, we started with talking to each other and since the group of men and women both the dynamic of men and women and talking to each other and telling the truth. That became one of our basic foundations of our relationships with one another was the willingness to tell each other the truth. And so it started from there.. of a woman, me, talking to my friend, a man, and telling him the truth. Which was something I had never done before. And then in turn, he was telling me the truth, then we were telling each other the truth and building from there. We were DOing each other, the Deliberate Orgasm, where two people put their attention on one person’s body for the optimum amount of sensation, by agreement. From there, that opened up a whole new world, an arena of what orgasm is. So we began to research orgasm and the experience in different ways in our bodies than we had ever imagined before. That leads into well, then you experience your world more sensually, like food takes a different gratification. You just automatically slow down and you’re taking in your senses easier, more readily, you want to because we were experiencing gratification from our friendships with each other and gratification in our sex life and communicating a lot. And it’s been a ride. Of course there are the highs and there are the lows but that is life. The range of experience and we would discuss all kinds of things through these 20 years. Like, what does this mean?, what does that mean?, and just slowing down and taking pause and considering things. Not just taking what society says as the way things are. You know, automatic.
VERONICA MONET: Sure. And what do you think society does tell us about orgasm and pleasure?
SHERI: Well, first that you have to pay for your pleasure.
VERONICA MONET: And when you say pay, are you talking about prostitution or ….?
SHERI: No, no. It’s the whole Puritan ethic. You have to work 5 days a week, you have to work 40 hours a week. You have to work until, retirement age just changed, until you’re 65-70 then you get to retire and do all those things you think you want to do. Those kind of ideas. Then you get the weekend off and you can have fun on the weekend. But most people are so tired and it’s so geared to production that a lot of people really don’t have the skills and the know-how to have fun… to really have fun. When it comes to orgasm I think that where people get their information it’s really limited because where do most people get their information from when it comes to sex and orgasm? They get it from the movies or porn and that is misleading.
VERONICA MONET: That brings up an interesting question. I know that welcomed.com produces some explicit DVDs. The one that you are going to be giving away is explicit. How do you differentiate that between what you produce and porn? First I am going to ask you and then also Rebecca, what you think about it.
VERONICA MONET: What’s the difference between the explicit DVDs that welcomed.com produce and porn?
SHERI: Well, it’s huge. What we show in our DVDs, we have 13 DVDs. We have a series of female masturbation videos and then we have videos on the Deliberate Orgasm technique. And then we break that down into different parts of Deliberate Orgasm. There’s one focused on communication, another on peaking and expanding orgasm and so on and so on I can go on for a long time explaining it. But what it shows, like in our female masturbation, the one that Rebecca just made, it shows a real woman having a real orgasm. She demonstrates her sensuality. She shows how she produces and creates orgasm in her own body. It’s quite intimate and quite candid and it’s really beautiful. In the Doing series, it shows a man stimulating a woman’s clitoris and producing orgasm in her body. It educates men on how to produce that orgasm in a woman’s body and it educates women and how they can have that kind of orgasm. Where it’s quite different from the traditional model of what people think about orgasm where it’s like Masters and Johnson and it’s 6 – 8 or 9 contractions and it lasts just a few moments and it’s over. But with Deliberate Orgasm you can create extended orgasm where it can last a minute, 3 minutes or an hour.
VERONICA MONET: I would think this is pretty controversial because Masters and Johnson did say that orgasm lasts all of 8 seconds. Do we think this is really one long orgasm or is this multiple orgasms?
SHERI: That’s a good question. It’s an orgasm with peaks. So it starts out the woman focuses on relaxing because the more a person relaxes during orgasm the more that they can feel. So when a man is stimulating woman’s clitoris, the most sensitive part of her body, with his fingers digitally he can learn to be quite adept to produce an orgasm in her body where he can bring her up creating this beautiful sensation and bringing her up and creating these peaks and then bring her down and peak her back up. A female orgasm can take many shapes and forms. The potential of the female orgasm is way beyond what anybody has imagined. But the really cool thing about it is once you start doing the DOing technique and you have that kind of orgasm you really feel the naturalness of it, like, Wow, this so fun. And with really learning the basics women can expand their orgasm way beyond anything they’ve ever imagined they’ve ever been educated to hear. And the really fun part about it for men is that men can produce an orgasm in a woman’s body at any time. He can have that kind of skill and knowledge to be able to, he knows he’s giving his woman an orgasm, undeniably he knows. And that is so fun for men to win that way with women.
VERONICA MONET: Do you think it is possible for men to have extended orgasm?
SHERI: Oh yes, absolutely.
VERONICA MONET: Is that something that you teach at welcomed and if so how would men achieve that?
SHERI: It goes what I described to you in the last question, it’s the female model, what we define as the “female model” of orgasm. Traditionally what people experience is to use the word the “male model” of orgasm where there’s the build-up, the build-up, the build-up and then the ejaculation and it’s over, right? And people know the sex act is over because the man ejaculated. That is a model of orgasm but with the female model of orgasm as I was describing it has peaks so it builds and it builds and meanders and goes to really high places and you can come down. A woman can create that type of orgasm in a man’s body by manually stimulating him. That’s really an untapped reservoir, too, of how men can experience orgasm. The potential is so much bigger than the traditional model that is so prevalent now.
VERONICA MONET: Absolutely, isn’t one of the keys to this like breathing through it so that you aren’t holding your breath?
SHERI: Right, that is part of that…relaxation is key, relaxation is definitely key. Yes sometimes it is good to keep your breathing relaxed and normal so that the energy can move through your body that way.
VERONICA MONET: Rebecca what’s your take on the difference between the explicit DVD which you appear in? I don’t know if you would say that are if it’s a documentary….
REBECCA: Yes, I got the gist of your question. It was how does what this video, what was in this video and its explicit nature differ from porn if I do differentiate it from porn.
VERONICA MONET: Yes, exactly and what’s it like to be in a video like this?
REBECCA: I do differentiate it from porn but for me what it is it was intention, my intention of what I wanted to express in this video. When I was making this video with the Welcomed Consensus I had one person that I know, a woman that I know in my mind that I just thought I just reach one person like her and it makes a difference in her life like this information made a difference in my life it would be profound. Even just one woman it could change her life. Because I know for myself learning about these viewpoints and these ideas that expanded my orgasm, they really made my life so much better in every way. My experience of living so much brighter when you were talking about that vibrancy and sparkle in a person’s eye I feel like I got that out of this information. I experience my life with so much more pleasure and so much more fun and so much more vigor. Everything is brighter because of these viewpoints and how they have changed my life. I wouldn’t call it pornography because I don’t think that’s the intention. And yes, it is very explicit. I do masturbate and I also describe in it the things that I am experiencing and the ideas that had this orgasm be expansive in this way. It does have peaks, it does go beyond what I ever experienced before learning about Deliberate Orgasm. In this video you can really see how it goes past those places where someone would normally define ok this is like an orgasm I can go past what I would have previously had in that way as an orgasm. It’s more expansive because of the viewpoints behind it.
VERONICA MONET: What’s it like to be in a video like this? Do you have any embarrassment, are you afraid that somebody in your family might see it? Are you a real free spirit? I’m just wondering what your personal experience of it is.
REBECCA: I really can’t worry about what other people might think about it. Like the person I am thinking about is that person out there who could have their life get better the way that mine did. That woman that I thought about when I was making this video and things that she could learn to expand her life and her orgasm and make it that much better. That is the person I’m thinking about. I’m not thinking about the naysayers or whatever. There are going to be those people and that’s fine, that’s part of life. But I’m thinking about the woman who wants her life to get better or the man who wants their life to get better.
VERONICA MONET: So you’re really wanting to shift things I would think. Help people, that’s one thing. Is there anything about it that’s just may be fun to be in front of the camera?
REBECCA: Yes, I mean this video was so much fun to make and it was fun all the way through. And it’s so fun talking to you now. It keeps getting more and more fun actually. I very much enjoyed the making of it and I felt like that day I mean I thought about it for a long time really before I ever got on that camera. I thought about all of the things that really made life better out of Deliberate Orgasm and masturbating with this technique. When I got on that camera I had so much energy in my body, it was intense right from the very beginning. It was a great orgasm. I had so much fun! It was fun doing it and knowing there were people going to be out there they were going to feel it those good feelings and that just added to the sensation that I felt.
VERONICA MONET: Okay, so you have no shame that’s what I hear you have no shame. (laughter) That’s great since this is the Shame Free Zone.
SHERI: The beauty as Rebecca was describing so now a woman viewing that and seeing her feeling free in her sexuality and exploring her sensuality we would hope that it would inspire her to go into her own bedroom and want to explore her own sensuality further. And feel right about it, get that validation that it’s right, it’s good, it’s fun.
VERONICA MONET: So Rebecca, what exactly is a Deliberate Orgasm and how do you make one happen? There’s a lot of terminology out there, there’s multiple orgasm, female ejaculation, something called OMing that I became acquainted with through Nicole Daedone’s One Taste. I’m just wondering is this something similar, is it along those same lines is it totally different. How would you position the Deliberate Orgasm in the world of sex where there’s so many different techniques and names?
REBECCA: Sheri, do you want to start with that?
SHERI: Well, that’s a big question. You’ve got a lot of pieces in there to it. Well, Deliberate Orgasm is by agreement two people put their attention on one person’s body for the optimum amount of pleasure. Deliberate Orgasm is also called Doing. We spell that D-O-ing. There is DOing a woman or DOing a man. What’s Deliberate Orgasm? It’s not only a technique, it’s also a body of information. A body of information on living a pleasurable life. And living a pleasurable life is being pleasured by it. Being pleasured by your relationship, pleasured by your partner, your children, your friends. Being pleasured by your day-to-day choices. And living a gratified life. It’s a simple technique to learn. When a person does learn and practice the Deliberate Orgasm technique they will be astounded to what they are going to be able to feel in their bodies. You know for a man, the kind of orgasm he will be able to produce in a woman’s body and it’s going to redefine orgasm for women to their potential of what they can feel in their bodies.
VERONICA MONET: How is this different or is it different from OMing, which Nicole Daedone introduced at one Taste or even multiple orgasmic techniques. Just wondering if it is different or just a different approach.
SHERI: OMing is different, it’s Orgasmic Meditation. It’s similar and it’s different. Nicole Daedone she lived with us for a period of time and she took most of our courses, most all of them and she engaged in our upper level course in training in orgasm. She learned about her own potential of orgasm with us and she and Robert Kandell decided they wanted to create their own organization, and they formed One Taste. And Ken Blackman, one of their main teachers he lived with us for a long time, 12 years or so, and he’s highly trained in the Deliberate Orgasm technique. And so they formed One Taste and they do their version and it’s called Orgasmic Meditation. And it’s great because the more people that learn about the Doing technique the better for all of us. The more it gets out there the better.
VERONICA MONET: Exactly, Exactly.
REBECCA: I can say from my own perspective, I was very interested before I found the Welcomed Consensus and Deliberate Orgasm I was very interested in learning many different things…I searched around some of the various techniques you mentioned. I just know when I found out about Deliberate Orgasm I experienced my first Deliberate Orgasm I knew that was the direction I wanted to go. That felt better than anything I had ever experienced before. And so some of those things I am not as familiar with that you mentioned and some of them I’ve looked into but I can tell you that was my experience. I had a DO date and I thought, this is for me!
VERONICA MONET: Wow. Is there a community at Welcomed?
SHERI: Yes, we do have a community. We have pretty wide community down here in San Francisco and the Bay Area. We’ve had students from all around the world take courses and we keep in contact with them. We definitely believe in community.
VERONICA MONET: How can people, you’ve got online classes and retreats. You’ve got basic sensuality courses, advanced sensuality courses. So I guess anyone can apply?
VERONICA MONET: Fabulous. And then, your retreats, what are some of the usual destinations for that?
SHERI: In northern California it’s about 25 miles from the Oregon border. We have the Sensuality Retreat is our basic retreat. And that’s a 3 day course. It has the Common Sensuality course which has our base philosophy. It’s a 2 day lecture/ discussion. And then we do the Observation of Intense coming course where that’s a demonstration of woman in orgasm for one hour. The students arrive a bit early and so sometimes they’re there for 4 days, meals and accommodations are provided. It’s quite a serene setting.
VERONICA MONET: I’m looking at the website here. It’s says it’s A Madrone Ranch. It’s located within the Siskiyou mountains. It looks like it’s very peaceful and apparently it’s about an hour and a half south of Medford Oregon. 6 hours north of SF.
SHERI: At times students drive depending on where they’re coming from but most fly into the Medford airport.
VERONICA MONET: Are these co-ed? It looks like you have that’s one just for women?
SHERI: Right but most are any and every one. Whether a couple wants to come together or it’s a single woman or single man.
VERONICA MONET: Very nice, very nice. How people do you usually have at the workshops?
SHERI: It varies. Some of the retreats are quite private and that’s the way the students prefer them. And then some of our courses they can have up to 20 people in them. We do a Communication Course which actually we are doing a Communication Course this weekend in SF. And that’s going to be a lot of fun.
VERONICA MONET: And what happens in a Communication workshop?
SHERI: In the Communication Course we break down the fundamentals of communication and build them back up. So there’s lecture, discussion and exercises that students do to experience the communication as we break it down and build it back up. And as you well know communication is a big component of our lives, of our sex lives, in our relationships. So the goal being to develop one’s communication skills so that they can effectively and efficiently communicate with anyone, anywhere, any time and get what they want. And it’s really so fun, too. I love teaching this course.
VERONICA MONET: So you said that’s this weekend?
SHERI: Yes, this weekend
VERONICA MONET: Does it go one day , two days?
SHERI: Two days Saturday and Sunday.
VERONICA MONET: It must be on your event calendar?
SHERI: Yes .
VERONICA MONET: How are you guys publicizing the DVD? Are you going on talk shows besides radio talk shows?
SHERI: Our website, Facebook, Twitter, you know the usual, Amazon.com. Female orgasm on a talk show, that would be fun, let’s do it.
VERONICA MONET: Wouldn’t it?! Wouldn’t that be great. It’s so time for that. Oprah did a whole program on how women are not having orgasm and how they’re faking it. Wouldn’t it be great if she then brought on the experts like yourselves to talk about how women can have orgasm? Wouldn’t that be something?
SHERI: That would be.
VERONICA MONET: I think the closest she gets to that is when she brings on Dr. Laura Berman who a couple years ago recommended mothers buy all their daughters vibrators. Which I thought was awesome.
VERONICA MONET: Speaking of vibrators do either one of you have opinions about whether or not vibrators are good or bad a plus or a minus for women’s orgasmic response.
SHERI: We can definitely understand why women use them because they want to get off and they want their bodies taken care of. But a vibrator will numb your genitals, it will numb your clitoris. I mean there are 8,000 nerve endings concentrated on the head of a woman’s clitoris and to put a vibrator there over time it is numbing, it is desensitizing. You take that same woman and if she could experience Deliberate Orgasm, if she could experience DOing she will be astounded to the kind of orgasm she could feel in her body and she will toss out the vibrator.
VERONICA MONET: Hmmm. So is that what happened to the two of you? Have you tossed out your vibrators?
SHERI: I never had one. I have a similar story like Rebecca. When I had my first DO date oh gosh maybe 25 years ago I had a fun sex life, I liked sex, it was fun, I had orgasms. Anyway a friend of mine had learned about DOing and he did me and I was like Oh my, Wow this is fun, can we do it again? And I’ve been doing it ever since. And to the question you asked in the earlier part of the show about relationships becoming kind of stale, kind of stagnant, you’re with a partner for 20 years, you love each other but things are a little stagnant. But through Deliberate Orgasm you can create a sex life that does get better and better. That has been my experience. I can speak first hand. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years and my orgasm has continually gotten better. Through a lot of communicating, I mean it’s not magical it’s through being deliberate and communicating is a big part of that. But we teach people the techniques and the viewpoints that will carry them through that, through having fun, gratifying sex life and relationship.
VERONICA MONET: What about watching porn? Do you guys have any opinions about that? Do you think that this can be used in a positive way in relationships or does it tend to have a negative effect? Do you have an opinion about that?
SHERI: Well, I think it would be easier to judge that if there was more available on the other side. I mean porn is a huge industry. There’s just not a lot of availability and that’s what we’re so passionate about to create that availability that people could view a woman having an orgasm that’s not for show, it’s not fake, it’s not pretend. She’s actually with a person that she has connection with that is producing the orgasm. If that was so readily available, maybe people would be making the choices for that and not porn.
VERONICA MONET: Now do you think that’s an important part of female orgasmic response, that the woman has a connection with the person who is providing her with an orgasm? Or is that an old fashioned approach?
SHERI: No. I don’t think it’s necessary, it’s not necessary for a woman to have an orgasm, for her body to have an orgasm. But I got to tell you as you well know yourself, it’s gratifying. That’s one thing that I experienced through Deliberate Orgasm. My partner, he got to know me and to be known is immensely gratifying. So you don’t need a connection in order to physically have an orgasm but how good it feels and how good it feels in your body and your soul and your being.
VERONICA MONET: Rebecca what about you. What is your take on that?
REBECCA: Yes, I have to agree that as my friendship with my partner has gotten better I feel my orgasm gets better. When I’m communicating with him, when I feel connected with him, were talking or we feel close then the things I experience sensually are so much greater and more gratifying so much more intense in every way. It’s true you don’t need to have that connection to have that basic physical response. He could without even knowing me produce an orgasm in my body. He could know nothing about me and could produce an orgasm in my body. But just through talking and telling him what I feel and what I want and who I am, the connection and the things that I experience are so much greater.
VERONICA MONET: What about sexual fantasy? What role does that play? I talk to people who have sex fantasies about the person they are in love with and I’ve talked to people who prefer to have fantasies about anonymous strangers while they are having sex with the person they are in love with, which for me seems a little odd. I am just wondering, what do you think about fantasy? Does it even come into play with the Deliberate Orgasm practice?
REBECCA: It’s so interesting that you bring that up because I am writing an e-book about my experience of my journey with sensuality and with orgasm and I address this in there. Yes, there are a lot of different ways that people do fantasize in their life and I used to have a lot of fantasies in a way they were very strange, that’s what I thought about them, that they were strange. You know you said somebody is fantasizing about a total stranger while they’re having sex. Yeah, I used to do that a lot and I’ve found that one of the things that I noticed is when I’ve told my partner about my fantasies, that he didn’t think they were strange, he didn’t have the same kind of ideas that I had about them. And so it just made me feel better about it. It was like ahhh. And then he knew something about me and it didn’t have so much, you know, it didn’t feel the same way. Seeing it through his eyes he could just go, oh, ok and then it was fun. It was fun to tell him and then I wanted to tell him more things that I fantasized about or that I thought about. It wasn’t necessarily that I wanted to have those experiences. It was just things that I thought, I liked to think about. In Deliberate Orgasm the thing that I noticed is that when I have my attention on what’s happening right now, it is what is the most sensational thing. Fantasy is fun and when I am experiencing something, a sensual experience right now then that’s what I want my mind to be on and that’s the most sensational thing but it’s not that fantasy is wrong.
VERONICA MONET: So you have fantasies but you also like to redirect yourself away from those to focus on the connection in front of you?
REBECCA: It’s the communication, it’s the talking. As you’re having these experiences with another person and even when I’m masturbating, when I’m having experiences masturbating, it’s really fun to say what I notice, feel what I notice right then and there what I am experiencing right now. That’s where I really expanded the sensation that I can have.
VERONICA MONET: So you’re basically practicing being in the moment or present?
REBECCA: Yes, you’re being present.
VERONICA MONET: That’s great, that’s great. I’m looking at the clock I can’t believe how late it is already. This has been a lot of fun and I want to give you an opportunity basically to let everybody know how they can get a DVD and sign up for the Communication workshop that is taking place this weekend…
VERONICA MONET: I really want to thank both Rebecca and Sheri Testerman for doing their part for world peace. S&
REBECCA: Thank you, Veronica.
VERONICA MONET: The more orgasms we can create on this planet, I think, the less violence we will experience, so I am all for it.
SHERI: We appreciate what you do.
VERONICA MONET: Thank you. Thank you guys.