Hi Bill, You have some good questions here. I have a few for you. When she says, or shows “indifference”, how do you respond, what do you say? I have learned from The Welcomed Consensus that women want to want. It seems that in the world when a woman has had some fun sex; that her lover tends to pull on her for more or “hump her leg” as it were. That can be a turn off for her. What have you learned here about seduction? Women want non-judgmental attention.